Flickr vs. Picasa Web Albums
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I couldn’t find a good comparison of the upgraded versions of the best online photo album so I decided to write one myself. This was originally meant for a friend but I thought everyone could benefit from this. Now lets get on with the reviews.
Space
One of the most important and basic features of any image hosting or web album service is the storage limitations. First, lets see the free accounts. In Flickr, there is a 100Mb upload limit per month but not storage limitations or thats what people think. There is a limit of 200 images with a maximum of 5Mb per image which means the limit is around 1000MB for a free account. In Picasa Web Albums, there is a specified limit of 1024MB or 1GB, and a limit of 10MB for each image. Picasa wins here because we can store as many images as we want within the 1024MB.
Now, lets move to paid accounts. Flickr has a fee of US$24.95 a year for a Pro Account. With a Pro Account, all your limitations are removed and you can upload an unlimited amount of images. Even if your Pro Account expires, the images will not be deleted and can be recovered if you pay for the next year. Picasa Web Albums has a slightly different approach with a increasing price for increasing storage limits. For US$25 a year, which is about the same as Flickr, we can buy upto 7GB of storage. This increases in 4 levels upto 251GB at US$500 a year.
Sets/Collections/Albums
A simple way of organizing your images is by putting similar images together in albums. This is very helpful in sorting out images. Once again we’ll observe free accounts at first. Flickr has a limit of 3 set in a free account and collections (a group of sets) are available only for Pro Accounts. Picasa Web Albums has no limit and you can add as many albums as you want but you cannot add sub-albums. But you only add 500 images per album. For paid accounts, there is no difference in Picasa but in Flickr, you can add as many sets and collections as you want. Sets can be defined as sub-albums and the collections can be albums.
Organizing
Flickr has a interactive AJAX Organizer for organizing the images. In this organizer, you can add or modify sets and collections, tag pictures, share your images with your groups, add geo-location tags for the images, edit the permission and captions for the images and do minor editing like rotating, etc. A batch editing feature is also available. Picasa also features a AJAX organiser for arranging images within an album. Adding of image captions is pretty simple and the images do not require a separate image title.
Layout / Viewing
In Flickr, you can alter the layout of the pages to a certain extent with pre-designed layouts. You have an option of 4 layouts for the free version and 6 layouts for the paid version. The visitor can also choose to download different sizes of the same image. Picasa Web Albums does not allow you to change the layout but while viewing the albums, anyone can dynamically change the size of the thumbnails which is pretty good and useful feature.The visitor can also choose to download an entire album which saves time. Even while viewing a single image, you can zoom into the image and scroll around it within the browser itself.
Slideshow
In Flickr, the Slideshow is displayed via Flash and you can choose to display it in a pop-up window or withing the browser itself. It does not cover the entire screen and you have access to basic Slideshow controls. In Picasa Web Albums the Slideshow is displayed via AJAX and HTML and you choose to display the captions. The Slideshow covers the entire browser viewing area and also has the basic controls.
Uploading & Comments
In Flickr, images can be uploaded through the browser, mobile phone, email or Flickr’s software for PC, Mac or Linux. The commenting system is fine, you can also subscribe to the RSS Feed of your comments. You need to be registered to post comments. In Picasa Web Albums ,uploading can either be done through Picasa or via the browser, a plugin is also provided for Mac users. The commenting system is basic but does its job. You need to have a Google Account to post comments.
Misc. Features
In Flickr, you can add notes to individual pictures which will be displayed when the user hovers his mouse over certain areas in the image. Flickr has a API which is useful for integration into websites. Picasa’s most remarkable feature is that it also supports the uploading of videos which can be viewed as a streaming video. Picasa has just released a API Feature so it will take some time before services are developed for it.
Verdict
For free accounts, go Google and use Picasa Web Albums. It supports more images and albums and even though it lacks a few features, one can manage without them. So, if you do not wish to pay and have a simple and good web album, use Picasa. You may opt for Flickr for a feature rich but limited album.
If you are willing to pay $2 per month, then Flickr is your best friend, with unlimited images and sets, there is virtually no limit to what you can do with Flickr.
Another different alternative is DeviantART although it is not intended for usage as a web album but rather as a showcase for your art. You may try it out but it will not have features like Flickr or Picasa Web Albums since it was not meant to be an photo album.
The choice is yours to make depending on your requirements and thoughts.
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ok…really…thank u SO much for that.
that was definitely informative.
Im going to see what i have to do after boards.
thanks again.
Your welcome.
Glad that you benefited from it.
Very nice and to the point. Bravo!
-Justin
Thank you for nice review. Can Picasa or Flickr generate tags automatically from IPTC keywords that can be embedded directly into the image file? (see http://www.krishnamoorthi.com/2007/03/25/flickr-vs-picasa-web-albums/ for more details on IPTC tags)
Nice review. I’m using Picassa Web Albums because everything else I’m using is Google (aps, gmail, gcal, etc..). I especially like how easy it is to upload via iphoto.
Good, informative review. What won me over in picasa web albums is the multiple-albums organization, as well as freedom of arrangement. Those two were lacking in flickr and had made it such that all my visitors would only see the latest-20 images & leave. Plus, the 200-pics limit had caught me completely off guard. Picasa’s interface is just what i need, and now with 500+pics and only 25% space occupied, I’m currently moving my pics form flickr to picasa. Now, i really hope the guys at google-picasa add the tagging feature to picasa web album, that will effectively seal the deal!
Your review is excellent. One thing I read in another review is that with Flickr if you share a private album with family and friends, then they too have to have Flickr accounts. Only public albums can be shared without the need for an account. Google does not require for a viewer of an album to have an account. This is especially important to me because a lot the people I share my photos with are not very Internet savvy so the least obstacles the better.
recently flickr has added an option to view private photos with a special link you can send to specific people. this feature is called ’shared set’ / ‘guest pass’. you can chose when to expire it as well
Nice review. I use picasa anyway at home – even if you use flickr picasa is the best desktop picture organizer. I suspect the integration of these two will only get better over time – and knowing google I suspect the storage limits will increase over time too. I agree if you’re going free, web albums are the way to go.
One nice thing is if you use iGoogle there is a nice gadget that scrolls thru your online images. Its fun and easy to use. While there is probably one for flickr, the picasa one is easy to find and use.
Nice summary. Exactly what I was looking for and confirmed by suspicion of the 200 image limit in (free) Flickr.
Yes, picasa is better. I just don’t get flickr. Flickr is counter-intuitive, the “latest images” feature is completely disorienting and the homepage for a user makes no sense, showing pics like it does. and free flickr only has three albums? what?!?!? it’s way too complex..
HI,
I loved your review! It was just what I was looking for.
One thing I’d like to see you discuss –
I would like to know how the two services compare in one aspect: are the photos I put up there available to anyone? In the free or paid accounts?
Well, I was about to buy flickr account, because I deal in alot of images, like 500 images after each ‘event’ and so that would add up fast. But since flickr doesn’t have paypal capabilities, I am gona look elsewhere :/ to bad.
Can someone tell me which of (or do both) PicasaWeb or Flick support this:
I have an album that I only want two of my friends to see. Nobody else should have access to it even if those two friends forward the URL to anybody else. Is there a solution for this ?
I think the best way is to provide access to that album based on login ids. Which service provides that level of privacy ?
picORflic,
Flickr would be perfect for you, you should mark your images as private and add your 2 friends as ‘Contacts’ so that they will be able to see them.
Thanks for the answer, Kishor.
That provision of privacy makes me lean towards Flickr. But I have these two questions and somebody correct me if I am wrong:
1. Flickr does not support video right now although PicasaWeb does (I just tried an image+video mixed slideshow in picasa and it works perfectly).
2. Flickr does not allow one to smoothly click on the ‘Next’ button (right arrow icon) and show the next picture without causing a page refresh. In fact, I don’t even see a ‘Next’ button for the main image – it exists only for the photostream which shows those worthless minisize pictures.
Am I correct ? If so, I find that annoying and am back to square One in deciding which of the two to use
Yes, Flickr does not support videos.
And what you said regarding the next button is correct. But you can click on the previous/next image rather than the arrow to view it.
However, you have an option of a slideshow for the images which works quite well and is easy to navigate too.
to make an album viewable by only those you invite, in picasa, you mark the album as private and send invites and that’s it, afaik. i don’t think that others can view the album even if the invite email is fwd’d (cookies). haven’t tested that tho.
one thing i really like about picasa vs flickr is contacts. import your contacts into your gmail acct and they automatically are filled in when you’re sending invites to view albums. flickr doesn’t connect with a yahoo acct or any address book/contact list, so you have to manually enter addresses every time, even if you’ve sent them an invite before. (unless I’ve missed something).
important note tho wrt to picasa is that there seems to be no way to backup a picasa web album if you’re on a mac (or if you’re not using the picasa desktop software). if you want that capability, you must use iphoto and the picasa exporter and the web album is just a copy of the album you created on your hard drive.
flickr’s concept is more about sharing photos among the flickr communityas opposed to photo albums to save and share with friends, but there are some 3rd party freeware apps for downloading to backup your sets; dk if this saves your comments/captions.
to correct myself, I just came across this on picasa’s help site:
Unlisted albums include an Authorization Key or a mix of letters and numbers in the URL to keep them “Unlisted.” If you attempt to view an unlisted album without this additional code, you will receive a 404 error. You can ask the album’s owner to send you an invitation to the album which includes the new URL.
Thanks a bunch for this review; it’s exactly what I was looking for! I really didn’t feel like comparing the FAQ-sections of both sites… =/
I’ll just stick with Picasa for the moment, maybe go Flickr pro if I exceed the 1GB! I’m in New Zealand right now and shooting photos like crazy.. The lack of sub-albums IS quite a shame though, but I’ll just take that for granted. Thanks!!
As a non-paying user of both services, I prefer Picasa’s interface to Flickr’s. Photos look more organized when placed in albums and you can create as many albums as you like in Picasa. In Flickr, as you have written, you can only create 3 albums (sets) if you are a non-paying member. I still haven’t figured out the best way to organize my 1,600 travel photos using only 3 albums. I’d rather have a separate album for each destination and I’m glad I can do that with Picasa.
Thanks for your post! There aren’t many recent reviews comparing the two sites.
I’m thinking about going with the paid flickr account. My main purpose is to have an online site serve as backup for all my photos. And I’m choosing flickr because of the unlimited space and bandwith.
Now, I need a site to store my videos. Google’s free 1gb space isn’t going to store much.
Hi Karen, I would recommend Carbonite.com for backing up not only your videos but all your files. They’re priced at around $50 a year for unlimited backup.
And thanks for kind comments
We are a web design and marketing company, for a year or so we have been using flickr pro and advising our Real Estate clients to as well. The flickr wordpress plugin works well and even our clients flickr account get indexed in google search results which is even better. The bad news is that flickr deleted one of our clients accounts becasue they said it was commercial which it wasn’t, it showed new development properties but they were used to feed into their blog and keep everyone informed. At no point were they trying to sell proeprty from their flickr account. Flickr didn’t even give a warning…straight delete
So I ahve registered a picasa account and will more than likley advise my clients to move accross. Question, can picasa photos get indexed in google’s search results (not images)? and will they be as strict as flickr reegarding images of property?
I’m not sure about how strict Picasa is, but I think their results get indexed in Google results. Once again I’m not too sure about this, but I suppose you could contact Picasa for further details.
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Flickr doesn’t delete the images if you don’t pay. You can start up again upon payment.
You don’t mention what Picasa does…I have been hunting and haven’t found the answer.
Can you help?
Thanks!!
S
I am so glad I found this site!
I recently opened a gmail account with the intention of using Picasa for displaying my photos to friends and potential clients.
I use PS CS2 for all of my editing and Bridge for image management etc. That said, can I choose which folders picasa uploads from my pc, or does the program just upload any and all “files” whether I plan on using them or not? Ok, the next “?” is kind of confusing, but I am a “kind of confused” chick:
If I were to use ps’s automated “web-gallery” image formatting and put this collection into a specified “file”, will Picasa upload said file and display ps’s template as is, or change the “look”?
The watermark and copyright issues are still a bit fuzzy to me. However, knowing I will have some control over who views my images is reasuring.
Any comments and information will be most appreciated.
Thanks to everyone for this terrific, informative site.
Sally
Hi Sally,
As for your doubts, to upload files to the Picasa Web Albums, you can choose the files in a folder which you wish to upload.
PS’s web gallery wont have any effect on Picasa since Picasa only takes the images and not the templates. It will display them in the default Picasa gallery format regardless of the web template done from PS.
Hope this has helped you out,
Kishor
@kishor thanks for the excellent comparison review. i did not explore picasa as much i did with flickr. currently i am a flickr pro user and will surely consider picasa before my renewal.
aug 2008: still no sub-albums in picasa, shame on them
Hi Kishor~
Thank you once again for all of the excellent info!
Your site still provides “Q&A’s” not found elsewhere.
Keep up the GREAT work.
Sally
Hi Kishor
Thank you for taking the time to post a great article. I have been comparing both sites and your analysis answered many of my questions and concerns. I take many digital photos and create albums to share. I want to create my own web page with thumbnails of all my albums. Then, I want to be able to tag my albums private and only allow the people I chose to view an album. I am looking to do this by using a “password” for that particular album and only that album. I would also like control of who copies or prints from the albums I share. I came across this Picasa 3 in the following blog. http://googlephotos.blogspot.com/ It sounds like the lastest version with some new added features. I value your opinion and would like to read your comments and suggestions.
Thank you
Thank you i was in two minds which one to use and was searching for the exact same thing. The limitation of three sets made me switch to picasa in a jiffy!
Thank you again!
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Hi there, great review!! I’m using Flickr (free) and the bandwith limitation is no good. I was thinking about Picasa but I’m not sure its security: at Yahoo your ID Account can be different from your Flickr Username (ID) and if you don’t share the email, your Y!ID Account is unknown.
In Picasa if I register a gmail account, my Picasa ID will be the same OR can I change the picasa ID (username)? I’m not talking about the URL, but the owner username, like Flickr.
Secound, is there an option to prevent downloading? I know the tricks to download practically anything, but still, not everyone knows. They don’t use flash-slide do they?
I’m sure I want Picasa or something else now, maybe a website of my own using flash slideshow, I’ve it and works fine, the only problem would be insert descriptions, tags and avoid search engines. Btw, can I choose at Picasa ‘avoid search engines’? I’m sorry about so many questions but this was the best review/opinions I found so far, would be very grateful is anyone could help!
Thank you again! My best!
You can just create another Gmail account for Picasa if you want to keep your IDs seperate.
And I dont think Picasa has as advanced options like Flickr to prevent downloading but you can enable Picasa to avoid search engines too.
Hope that helped
Kishor.
I started with Flickr.
I switched for 2 main reasons. Uploader crashed frequenly and the free version of flickr did not allow me to upload full resolution pictures.
Am happy with picasa now.
To keep this thread up-to-date:
Other free on-line photo storage sites are :-
1. photoshop express (2 GB)
2. myPitcureTown (2 GB)
3. SnapFish (2 GB)
Other than creating accounts, I have not used them so far.
Thanks Kishore!
I’m using Picasaweb. I got the $25/year deal, and am gradually uploading my albums. I also use a Mac, and there is a standalone uploader (works well), and one built into Iphoto (ties up Iphoto and frequently crashes). I hear that there’s a Picasa for for the Mac that just came out.
One great feature of Picasaweb is that you (or your friends) can upload pictures via email. By using an existing album as a subject, you can upload to that album. This makes Picasaweb great for groups (you can link to the path of an empty album, and wait for the photos to come in). One serious weakness of Picasaweb is lack of folders (or albums containing albums), and limited sort options (only choice is by album or upload date, not by album name). One can, of course, create multiple Google accounts, but I don’t think they can share paid storage.
I also use Snapfish. I don’t think of Snapfish as a photo-sharing site, but as an online print shop. As a result, most of the functionality seems designed around ordering prints. It’s the only site that I upload full-resolution pix to, and there doesn’t seem to be much of a storage limit, it’s just that every year or so they tell you to order something (anything) or they will take down your pictures. I’ve used it to publish wedding pix so that friends and family can order prints (you can “invite” people to view pictures), and I’ve used it to upload pix to print, or create books from.
Your review was perfect. All the things I was just trying to find out about Flickr vs. Picasa. Thank you so much!
Thank you so much for the review. This is just the information I was looking for to make my decision!!
Really usefull info. I guess i’ll use picasa. thanx for the review
What you said about Flickr having a 1,000 MB limit is incorrect.
Flickr allows free users to upload an unlimited number of photos, but it will only display the most recent 200. All of your photos beyond 200 will remain online. You can see these again if you upgrade to a Pro account.
Another way to see them is by adding them to groups. Then they will always be visible.